Tag Archives: EQPB Policy

ICA submission to MBIE’s Building Seismic Performance Consultation

ICA submission on MBIE building seismic performance consultation (Final 4Mar2013) was submitted to Ministry of Business, Innovation & Employment on Tues 5 March.  The final document was based on discussions with members at the ICA meeting on 12 February and updated to reflect our concerns about two aspects of the Wgtn City Council’s submission to MBIE.

These aspects were:

  • WCC supported local authorities having the ability to set higher standards  primarily for economic resilience and emergency management (after consultation with the community) – ICA strongly opposes this as economic resilience and emergency management is a public good – and should not be funded by private owners.
  • Lack of any reference to the ongoing uncertainty that is created by maintaining a link between the 33% and the New Building Standard.

Clr Ian McKinnon proposed an amendment to address our concerns about the ongoing uncertainty that this part of the submission created, but this was defeated by the Chair’s (Andy Foster’s) casting vote.  Clrs Pepperell, Lester, Coughlin, Morrison, Gill and Ritchie support Ian McKinnon’s proposed amendment.

ICA did support much of what the WCC’s submission said – and acknowledges the work Clrs and officials are doing, but ungoing uncertainty for building owners has to be stopped.   We cannot rely on public funds accompanying these proposals despite the best intentions of councillors to link higher standards to provision of public funds.

There will be many more discussions on this topic as the submissions are considered by MBIE and legislative changes proposed.

Reminder – ICA/WCC Technical Expert Panel on EQ Prone Bldgs – Wed, 20 June, 5.45 for 6 – 7.30 pm

This meeting provides building owners with an opportunity to ask questions of a range of technical experts.  Please note that advice on specific buildings cannot be provided in this forum.

The technical panel will include:

  • Stuart Palmer (Tonkin & Taylor) on geotechnical issues
  • Adam Thornton (Dunning Thornton) and Jon Devine (Spencer Holmes) on engineering issues
  • Zac Athfield (Athfield Architects) and Guy Marriage (Victoria University School of Architecture) on architectural issues.

Date:     Wednesday 20 June 2012
Time:     5.45pm for 6 – 7.30 pm  (Come early to get a seat so meeting can start promptly at 6pm)
Venue:   CQ Hotel, 213-223 Cuba St

Senior City Council staff will also be at the meeting.

We look forward to another well-attended meeting.

Date Change – ICA/WCC Technical Expert Panel on EQ Prone Bldgs – now Wed, 20 June, 6 – 7.30 pm

Our next meeting on earthquake prone buildings will be a Technical Expert Panel of engineers, architects and geotechnical people to answer your questions.

We have confirmed engineers – Adam Thornton (Dunning Thornton) and Jon Devine (Spencer Holmes), Zac Athfield (Athfield Architects) – and are in the process of finalising the other speakers.

Date:     Wednesday 20 June 2012 (Please note: this will replace the ICA meeting on 12 June)
Time:     5.45pm for 6 – 7.30 pm
Venue:   CQ Hotel, 213-223 Cuba St

Further information on speakers and format will be advised via email and on the ICA website (www.ica.org.nz).  WCC will also be advertising this event.

If you have specific questions you would like to submit to the panel, please send an email to innercityassociation@gmail.com

ICA/WCC Technical Expert Panel on EQ Prone Buildings – Wed, 13 June, 6 – 7.30 pm

Our next meeting on earthquake prone buildings will be a Technical Expert Panel of engineers, architects and geotechnical people to answer your questions.

We have confirmed engineers – Adam Thornton (Dunning Thornton) and Jon Devine (Spencer Holmes) – and are in the process of finalising the other speakers.

Date:     Wednesday 13 June 2012 (Please note: this will replace the ICA meeting on 12 June)
Time:     5.45pm for 6 – 7.30 pm
Venue:   CQ Hotel, 213-223 Cuba St

Further information on speakers and format will be advised via email and on the ICA website (www.ica.org.nz).  WCC will also be advertising this event.

If you have specific questions you would like to submit to the panel, please send an email to innercityassociation@gmail.com

100+ attend community meeting on EQ prone buildings

The co-hosted ICA and WCC community meeting to share information with owners of earthquake prone buildings (EQPB) was well attended by over 100 owners.

A summary of questions and answers will be published on this site in a few days.  You can register your email address (see right-hand side of screen) to be advised when the site is updated.  In the meantime, a copy of the WCC presentation is available here.

This meeting was the first of a series of meetings being planned.  These will include a panel of technical experts and an update on the Royal Commission of Inquiry’s interim report to be released in June.

Questions on EQPB can be forwarded to innercityassociation@gmail.com and they will be forwarded to WCC for a response.

Community meeting on earthquake prone building matters, Tuesday April 24, 5.45pm

The Inner City Association (ICA) and Wellington City Council are co-hosting a community meeting for inner city owners of earthquake prone (EQP) buildings (both residential and commercial).

WhenTuesday, 24 April 2012  ((Note: this meeting will replace the monthly ICA meeting on 10 April)

Time:   5.45 pm for 6pm start – 7.30 pm

Where: CQ Hotel, 213-223 Cuba St

Purpose:

  1. Update owners on WCC activities related to EQP building matters.
  2. Provide information to owners of EQP buildings.
  3. Provide an opportunity for owners of EQP buildings to be more involved in the ICA EQ Issues Sub-Committee, and be updated on related activities.
  4. Identify interest in future meetings on the topic.

What are your questions?

Let us know the questions you would like answered.  Send your questions to this email address by 17 April 2012 so answers can be collated for the meeting.

Please note: questions on individual building circumstances cannot be answered in the forum.  These should be directed to WCC (John Scott, Manager, Building Consents)

Click on this link for the  Agenda (24 April mtg).

Presenting ICA’s views on earthquake prone building developments to Government post-election

Are you a building or apartment owner in the inner city?  We need your assistance to provide the next Minister of Building and Housing with real life examples of the real costs involved in earthquake strengthening ….

ICA has been working proactively with the Wellington City Council as it reviews its Earthquake Prone Buildings Policy in light of the Canterbury earthquakes as these have serious implications for many residents and businesses in Wellington’s inner-city.    We want to keep the message simple: The safety issues are of course critically important but we need to have a clear appreciation of the very real costs involved in earthquake strengthening and how these costs are apportioned across the community.

The ICA would now like to present its views to the Minister of Building and Housing (after the election) ahead of the recommendations from the Royal Commission of Inquiry into the Canterbury Earthquakes being presented to the Government in the first half of next year.

We want to give the Minister some real life examples of the costs involved at the building level and the issues that will be needed to be addressed to achieve the outcome we all want – safe, secure and sustainably affordable buildings.  Any information you provide to us would be kept strictly confidential and no names of buildings or details that identified your building would be used.

We would appreciate any information you could provide on the following:

  • The cost to increase your building to 33% of the earthquake building standards (i.e. current code under the Building Act 2004)
  • The costs to increase your building to 67% of the current code
  • Strengthening options taken by building owners and reasons why i.e. whether you have decided to just aim for the 34% or go further etc.
  • Costs of engineering reports required to get to decision point

If you are willing to help please provide this information – and any other comments – by reply to innercityassociation@gmail.com  by Friday 2 December.

ICA feedback on WCC’s submission to Royal Commission of Inquiry into Canterbury Earthquakes

What the ICA has been saying …

Without undermining the very real public safety concerns and issues, the ICA has been highlighting the need for:

  • a very clear appreciation of the costs involved in earthquake strengthening (particularly Wellington’s inner-city heritage buildings) and how the costs and benefits are distributed across the community
  • certainty for building owners about whether they will face further increases in building standards in the future.

The Council has picked this up in its recent submission (which we commented on) to the Royal Commission of Inquiry into the Canterbury Earthquakes:

“In the case of strengthening, the costs fall almost exclusively upon building owners, whereas some of the benefits are external and may be distributed throughout the community.

The Council acknowledges that the responsibility to strengthen buildings lies with the owners however submits there is a legitimate case to consider other financial arrangements if the outcome is preventing a far greater cost to the community (and Government expenditure) at a future point. Options to consider might include insurance arrangements, taxation (deductibility), the role of EQC in preventative interventions and government incentives.

The Council submits that, in assessing and making recommendations on the legal threshold for an EQPB, the Royal Commission considers not only total cost, risk and benefit, but also:

  • how those costs, risks and benefits are distributed across the community
  • what legislative or other policy frameworks may be appropriate so that the costs and benefits of taking action are appropriately allocated across the community.
  • what specific building upgrade factors may warrant public contributions e.g. heritage preservation.

A major issue for inner-city owners of apartments in buildings either already affected by the EPBP or potentially affected if the standards change, is the lack of certainty around what the standards will be in the future.

Most owners are keen to push ahead and do what they need to do to meet the standards (and protect themselves, the public and their buildings) but are worried that further huge capital outlays might be required again in the future if standards continue to change in the lifetime of current owners (i.e. most accept standards change over time it is the frequency of the change and the inability to finance these requirements that is the key issue).”

WCC Scoping paper – review of Council’s response to earthquake prone buildings

On September 15 2011, WCC’s Strategy and Policy Committee considered a scoping paper on its’ review of Council’s response to earthquake prone buildings.

ICA made a submission on this paper at the meeting.  The key points were on:

  • the terminology being used to describe multi-unit, multi-storeyed residential buildings and the ‘economic impact’; and
  • the availability of information on which WCC’s analysis is being based.

Our submission is attached.    Click here for the WCC paper and minutes (p3-4,7-11)